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Thomas, 43, is best known as one of the high flyers of the telecom
boom of the 1990s. He launched Net2000, a “competitive local
exchange carrier,” in 1993, took it public in 2000, and ran the
company until its bankruptcy filing and sale to Cavalier Telephone
in 2002. These days Thomas is running Razorsight, a Fairfax-based firm
that sells business intelligence software. He joined its board in April
2004 and became its CEO in February 2005. Previously, he helped launch
Claris Capital, a boutique investment bank and authored “Entrepreneur:
A CEO’s Lessons in American Capitalism.” The Lynchburg
native came to the Washington area in 1990 when Bell Atlantic, his
employer at the time, promoted him to a local sales position. Razorsight
has 200 employees, half based in Bangalore, India. It was founded five
years ago by Sundeep Sanghavi, who remains its chairman. In December,
it closed on its first venture capital, a Series A round of $10 million
from Sierra Ventures of Menlo Park, California.
Tania Anderson, for Bisnow on Business: What
does Razorsight do?
It’s a software company that helps financial executives to
better manage costs. The way we do that is we have proprietary technology
that can extract data from any invoice format or purchase order contract,
whether they are in paper or electronic format. What happens today
is that, despite the great promise of EDI, over 80% of invoices within
the supply chain are manually processed, with paper and human intervention.
We provide full automation of the entire invoice life cycle and detailed
visibility into every line item on every invoice, as well as analytics
and audit and spend analysis.
What stands out about Razorsight?
We’ve not seen anyone else who can capture and extract data
down to the most detailed level the way our software does it.
What
are your ambitions for the company?
We are heads down focused on growth, building out the direct sales
organization in the first quarter, now building out partner and
sales channels and looking at international expansion.
What are
you doing differently from the founder, who was the previous CEO?
Sundeep is still very much involved. He built a tremendous foundation,
landed marquee clients such as AT&T, Verizon, MCI, Qwest, and
Sprint. But I have tried to do several new things. I have repositioned
and rebranded the company to go beyond the telecom vertical, into
areas such as retail, financial services, health care, and manufacturing,
with new clients such as General Motors and Comcast. Second has
been to recruit additional experienced management, such as a new
COO,
VP of product of development, VP of professional services, and
VP of worldwide sales; and finally, to recruit venture capital
to accelerate
growth, and to grow the sales and partner channels.
Your last company
was telecom, this is software. How do you compare your experiences?
It’s very similar in many regards. We sell our software as
a service. It’s a hosted solution that we host on behalf
of our clients. They use it over the Internet. It’s easy
to install, highly scalable, no capital expenditure for them. It’s
proven to save money. We have the same growth challenges I faced
in my past
life. There are a number of moving parts that crop up day to day,
such as production, operations, customer service,
personnel, integrating new
employees. It’s all
very exciting and very fun but we go through some of the growth
challenges and pains that traditional fast growing tech-oriented companies go
through.
What are the unique challenges today compared to
when you ran Net2000?
One of the big differences is that more than half of my people
are halfway around the globe. I have more than 100 folks in Bangalore,
India, who are full-time Razorsight employees. They’re 12
hours ahead, which enables us to be a 24-7 operation. I have to
communicate with those folks either very early in the morning,
which is their
evening, or very late at night, which is their morning. I go over
once a quarter as do the other executives on my team. We try to
make sure one of the executives is there every month. When half
of your
assets are halfway around the globe, there are pros and cons to
that. It certainly presents challenges from a management perspective.
Fortunately
we have some very strong people on the ground there to oversee
that. But nonetheless, it’s a different phenomenon than what
I’ve
experienced in a past life.
Why are those employees there?
We opened that office in August 2004 for several reasons. Number
one, the technical skill set of the employee base there is superb.
The technical colleges, the training and the technical skills of
the India employee base are exceptional. Number two, there has
been an economic advantage to being there from a development
perspective.
The labor rates are far below what they are in the U.S. That is
quickly changing. That wage arbitrage is quickly disappearing
especially
in Bangalore. The third reason is the work ethic. The employees
there are highly motivated, working long hours. There’s
a whole cultural phenomenon in India where the middle class is
rapidly growing. And
there’s a plethora of young Indian workers who are highly
motivated and highly driven to be successful. They’re willing
to make the sacrifices it takes to realize that.
Are they more motivated
than the young people coming out of U.S. colleges?
It’s hard to compare and contrast the two in many regards.
They’re definitely highly motivated and among the most motivated
I’ve seen anywhere. Their spirits and attitude are exceptional.
I don’t want to stereotype because we also have some incredibly
bright talent coming out of American universities. We’re known
for having the best universities in the world. Why did you take the
job at Razorsight?
I longed for being back, running and operating a company. When
I was doing Claris Capital for three years, my colleagues knew
that
ultimately I would go back and run a business. The nice thing about
being at Claris was it really was an ideal platform to see a lot
of business plans, evaluate a lot of emerging growth companies,
stay connected and see trends. When I first met this company and
its founder,
I initially became involved on the board for a year before I became
full time. I was able to gain a firm understanding of the company’s
value proposition and our technology and our enormous growth potential.
I got really excited about the company as a board member and then
when they approached me about a full-time engagement, I was very
excited about it. How did the experience of seeing Net2000 file for
bankruptcy and then get sold affect you personally?
It happened so suddenly so there wasn’t a lot of time to agonize
over it. I have always focused my attention ahead and not too much
behind. I was highly disappointed and frustrated but I didn’t
mull over it too much. What’s done is done. There’s nothing
I can do to change it. It was unfortunate and not really in the scheme
of fairness but it did happen. Fortunately for me I started Net2000
when I was 30 so I was still very young. Most entrepreneurs start
later than that. I had plenty of companies ahead of me. Does it bother
you to have the ‘b’ word in your professional
history?
It’s funny. On the East Coast, especially in the venture community,
folks look at that as a negative scenario. No one likes it. But I
can look at some very prominent executives like Alex Mandl at Teligent
or Dan Akerson at XO Communications, both of whom were very successful
executives before bankruptcy and after. I wouldn’t recommend
it to anyone but certainly if you go to the West Coast investment
community, they’re much more tolerant of companies that weren’t
ultimately successes because they understand that people learn
from mistakes as much as they learn from successes. I’ve been through
the full life cycle that an entrepreneur can go through, probably
much more so than most folks who have kept the growth of their companies
very small. We grew Net2000 to $150 million. A lot of entrepreneurs
I know have grown companies to $10 million or $20 million and sold
at the right time and made a decent amount of money. But they really
didn’t get the full breadth of experience that I got.
Is there
anything you would have done differently?
Absolutely. The biggest thing really is timing. We had opportunities
to sell the business before and after the IPO for a considerable
amount of money. We could have sold the company for $500 million
or $600 million cash. We had some very smart investors around the
table, none of whom believed it was the right time to sell. The
market was taking a downturn, but people were very bullish. Growth
was doubling
and people really thought we were going to grow to a multi-billion
dollar business. No one was really focused on an exit. Second,
I would have stuck to our initial focus for the first seven years.
We had a regional focus and strategy. But we listened to the Wall
Street experts and expanded to a national strategy which is when
we took on the debt. What’s the most interesting thing you’ve
done in the last year?
Most definitely for me was my first ever visit to India. I went
over for the first time in late November through early December.
I went
to visit our employees for 10 days and I also flew three hours
north to Delhi and drove four hours to Agra and went to see Taj
Mahal.
It was just overwhelming to see how they built that structure with
such precision and attention to detail 400 years ago. Just the
culture and the people and to see for the first time the phenomenon.
I traveled
pretty extensively throughout Europe but had not been to Asia or
a third world country. Also, I read “The World Is Flat,” so
to see that was just very moving. I’m going back next month
for 10 days. Did you go exploring on your own?
My employees there were quite helpful. I also went with Mark Mendes,
who is the chairman and CEO of Wisor Telecom. He had been my COO
at Net2000. He has 130 employees there and he goes about four times
a year. What else do you want to see there?
I want to stop by Dubai. The founder of my company has family there.
I’d like to see the engineering feats they’re doing where
they’re pulling out sand from the bottom of the ocean and building
out islands that you can see from outer space. There’s lots
of Asia that I want to see.
[This interview conducted by Tania Anderson for
Bisnow on Business.]

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